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Title: BEST combo deck for 1st or 2nd turn wins EVER? (IYO)
Estimated Combo Cost: $0.00
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:24pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

what, in your opinion, is THE best combo deck for 1st or second turn wins? :)

in my opinion it'd have to be the deck with a ton of leylines + serum powder + opalecence + serra's sanctum :)

for second turn wins,
my favorite is the about face + tireless tribe combo :)
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:54pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

20 Channel
20 Fireball
20 Black Lotus

'Nuff said.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 8:10pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Sorcery (8)
4x Tinker
4x Time Walk

Land (4)
4x Tolarian Academy

Instant (28)
2x Force of Will
4x Gifts Ungiven
4x Fact or Fiction
4x Brainstorm
4x Intuition
4x Mystical Tutor
2x Mana Drain
4x Ancestral Recall

Artifact (18)
2x Chrome Mox
4x Lightning Greaves
4x Black Lotus
4x Mox Sapphire
4x Mana Crypt

Creature (2)
2x Blightsteel Colossus

Wins t1-2 consistently! (But wait, how do time walks count?!)
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 9:45pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Lotus Petal

0 mana creature

 culling the weak

dark depths

vamp hexmage

lightning greaves
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 11:49am

Torto
Posts: 148
Joined: 25-Jun-11

Absolutely, I said ABSOLUTELY, the Long. Dec.
The deck consist in:
1 - Use a lot of mana accels in the first turn (moxes, lotuses, dark rituals, etc.)
2 - Use draw cards to get as many cards as possible in your hand.
3 - Play Yawgmoths Will to bring back all the cards used and finish the game using the storm of Tendrils of Agony from your hand.
Probably the most known and fearsome deck ever made: 60% of chance to end the game in the FIRST TURN.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 12:10pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

The almost guaranteed first turn win deck I played once was,

20x Lightning Bolt
20x Time Twister
20x Black Lotus

Guaranteed Mulligan redraw if you need it back when rules said you could basically keep drawing until you're happy with your beginning hand.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 4:13pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

okay okay,
i meant first turn/second turn win in a LEGAL deck, meaning a maximum of 4 cards for each card O__O" ..
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 4:37pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

MINE IS 4 OF EACH! Also leyline+serum powder doesnt work!
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 4:40pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

but mine by far is the easiest and legal in any format (except due to to time restrictions)

[Edited by Twogunkid on 8/Nov/11 at 4:41PM]
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 5:01pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Oh, found the best combo! Only requires 3 cards (in hand)! Protean hulk, Flash, black lotus (or for budget legal version: a land and Elvish spirit guide/simian spirit guide or any mox)! From there theres lots of things you can do! 4 Hedron crab, 4 dryad arbor, 1 sakura tribe elder, or karmic guide, and carrion feeder, use karmic to return hulk, sac hulk to carrion feeder, grab kiki-jiki, create a loop with carrion feeder, kiki-jiki, and karmic, creating an infinitely big carrion feeder and an infinite amount of karmic guides! (The second one is better because you dont need to find 4 of anything, so theres a higher chance that it wont be in your hand!)


[Edited by PinkiePie on 8/Nov/11 at 8:21PM]
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 8:16pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Im not sure whether itd work, but you could probably pull off

25 black lotus
20 squadron hawk
15 ancestral recall

for a turn 2 win!

Maybe 5 mass hysteria for turn 1?!
Date Posted: Wed Nov/09/11 at 3:40pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

leyline + serum powder works,

it was even in a decklist on the official magic site, intended to do JUST what i explained.
Date Posted: Wed Nov/09/11 at 4:04pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Bro, it DOESNT WORK! You play the leylines after you keep your hand! You keep your hand after you finish mulling!

Multiple rules:

At the beginning of a Magic game, you draw the top seven cards of your library. That’s your starting hand. If you don’t like your starting hand of cards for any reason, you can mulligan. When you mulligan, your hand is shuffled into your library and you draw a new hand of one fewer cards. You can mulligan as many times as you want, but you draw one fewer card each time. When both players like their opening hands, you start playing.

8/15/2010 Your "opening hand" is the hand of cards you decide to start the game with after taking any mulligans.

8/15/2010 After all players have decided not to take any more mulligans, if the starting player has any Leylines in his or her hand, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.

103.5. Once all players have kept their opening hands, if any cards in the starting player's hand allow that player to begin the game with those cards on the battlefield, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.
Date Posted: Wed Nov/16/11 at 4:57pm

SirZapdos
Posts: 329
Joined: 21-Jun-11

60 Chancellor of the Dross
Date Posted: Wed Nov/16/11 at 10:23pm

Mischiefmkr
Posts: 4
Joined: 05-Sep-10

The Classic
Channel+Fireball

or

Channel+emurkel :)

[Edited by Mischiefmkr on 16/Nov/11 at 10:23PM]
Date Posted: Wed Nov/16/11 at 10:53pm

Akinas86
Posts: 327
Joined: 16-Jun-10

grapeshot storm

@ sirzapdos: i like your way of thinking
Date Posted: Thu Nov/17/11 at 5:53pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Except that it isnt really a combo...!
Date Posted: Thu Nov/17/11 at 11:34pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Grindstone
Painter's servant
Date Posted: Fri Nov/18/11 at 11:26am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

in my opinion it'd have to be the deck with a ton of leylines + serum powder + opalecence + serra's sanctum

MINE IS 4 OF EACH! Also leyline+serum powder doesnt work

Bro, it DOESNT WORK! You play the leylines after you keep your hand! You keep your hand after you finish mulling

yes leyline and serum powder do not work together, however for what morbid is talking about the idea is to use the powder to replace your mulligans so you don't need to give up cards, and can max out the number of leylines in your opening hand.  drop all your leylines before your turn, on your turn drop the sanctum and follow with the opal.  Since the leylines were under your control at the start of turn they attack you win
Date Posted: Fri Nov/18/11 at 4:57pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Yeah, i know what the idea he posted was trying to do!
Date Posted: Sun Nov/20/11 at 6:54am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Fluctuator deck, of course...
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 11:57am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Agreed.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 12:45pm

Giovan
Posts: 39
Joined: 07-Oct-11

Curiosity: How the Fluctuator Deck works?

edit: Also, someone posted something about the Long deck above, is the Fluctuator more powerful than Long?

[Edited by Giovan on 17/Dec/11 at 12:49PM]
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 1:01pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You play Fluctuator with a ton of 2 cost cycling cards. After cycling most of your deck, you use Songs of the Damned to get lots of mana and play something like Exsanguinate or use Haunting Misery.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 2:38pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

As for long,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Long

He has quite a few decks named after him! I once played a pitch long edh that was really stupid and unfun! :D
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 3:01pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How he messed with the opponent's head was cool.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 3:28pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

How he cheated was pretty cool too...! Also has anybody else noticed that FoP hasnt posted anything in quite some time!?
Date Posted: Sat Dec/17/11 at 3:36pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Yeah, I noticed that.

Cheating is cool. Getting caught isn't.
Date Posted: Sun Dec/18/11 at 7:50am

Giovan
Posts: 39
Joined: 07-Oct-11

Yeah Pinkie, that's true. But take a look at this list specifically:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/longdec/
Date Posted: Sun Dec/18/11 at 10:27am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09


http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/longdec/

I've seen that deck before. Looks pretty merciless.
Date Posted: Sun Dec/18/11 at 12:05pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Its pretty much a deck made out of the vintage restricted list....!
Date Posted: Sun Dec/18/11 at 12:11pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Or maybe that's why they were restricted. . .



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